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Clean Air Revolution: Revealing Indoor Pollution Secrets and Ways to Improve It
Breathing clean air shouldn't be a luxury, yet most of us unknowingly fill our lungs with harmful particles, pathogens, and chemicals every day inside our own homes. In this eye-opening conversation, Michael Church welcomes Robia Turner, an indoor air quality expert from Vollara, to uncover the invisible dangers lurking in our living spaces.
While we carefully scrutinize our food and water, we rarely consider the quality of what we breathe continuously—despite survival being measured in minutes without air, versus days without water or weeks without food. Turner reveals why traditional filtration approaches fall short and explains how modern active purification technologies can transform your home's air quality in ways that passive filters simply cannot.
The fascinating science behind ionization technology shows how nature's own purification method during thunderstorms can be replicated inside our homes. By sending out negative and positive ions throughout living spaces, these systems cause harmful particles to clump together and drop out of the breathing zone while simultaneously neutralizing viruses and bacteria. A recent hospital study showed this technology reduced hospital-acquired infections by over 70%—powerful evidence of its effectiveness.
Particularly concerning is the discussion of volatile organic compounds (VOCs) that off-gas from furniture, paint, carpeting, and cleaning products. Turner shares a poignant example about new parents who carefully prepare nurseries with fresh paint and carpeting, unknowingly creating a toxic environment for their newborn's developing immune system. Even products labeled "low VOC" focus on protecting the ozone layer, not human health.
Most homeowners notice significant improvements within just 2-3 days of installation, especially those with allergies, asthma, or respiratory sensitivities. If you're concerned about your home's air quality or simply want to create the healthiest possible environment for your family, this conversation provides crucial information about technology that goes beyond masking odors or filtering only what passes through a mechanical system.
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Hey there, Michael Church with Crawl Space Ninja. Today I have a special guest with me. I have is an independent sales professional with Vollara who makes indoor air purification and water purification technologies, and today we're gonna do a deep dive into indoor air quality, air purification, filtration, vocs, particles, germs, colds, things like that. I've got a bunch of questions for . What are the biggest indoor air problems homeowners face today? How do air purifiers work versus filtration? We're gonna talk about HEPA filtration and can air purifiers remove allergens, mold spores and how does humidity affect air purification? So and I have known each other a long time. This is gonna be some great information. Make sure you listen to this video while you're driving. You'll get some good information out of it. Here we go, . How long have we known each other?
Robia Turner:It's been 06, 07, somewhere in that range, 08 maybe. Yeah, it's been some time, my friend.
Michael Church:It's been a long time. We've even been on a couple of vacations and cruises together. We've had cargo in Aruba together. Yes, that was interesting, but anyway.
Robia Turner:Those are some of my favorite memories on some of the trips that we've taken together, but the one I'll always remember is where you nonchalantly came up and was like, hey, man, I just petted a manatee or something. Right, you're like it's just like you rolled over and I'm like Michael lives a life that I'm not sure I can relate to. We were doing the scuba or something. I can't remember if it was in Aruba or Cancun that you did that trip. That was pretty cool.
Michael Church:Yeah, we were at Coco Cay or Coco Cay Island Royal Caribbean Cruise. Yeah, this little baby manatee. We were out a scuba dive in. This little baby manatee. Just rolled up on us while we were out, probably 25, 30 feet deep, and just decided to roll over like a dog and I was like scratching his belly.
Michael Church:Yeah that was pretty cool, pretty cool stuff. So anyway, I appreciate you coming on, , because obviously post well pre-COVID air qualities, you know, you and I, I have known about poor air quality forever. I mean, we kind of have that background there. But post-COVID it seems like more and more Americans are waking up to the air quality problem and one of the things I always find interesting is that everybody always focuses on air and water. I'm sorry, on food and water, which is obviously important, but you and I have learned over the years you know you can go what 30 plus days without food. You can go, you know, three, four days without water, but you can't go very long without air and nobody seems to have an emphasis on air quality and that's why I had come on today and he's going to talk to us a little bit about air quality. Comes from that background and a company that produces air and water purification technology. So,
Michael Church:, what is the biggest indoor air quality problem that you feel today that homeowners face?
Robia Turner:You know it's a. It's a great question because if you would ask pre-pandemic right, I'd say the majority of people when we discussed indoor air quality they would think about particulate matter. Hey, I see the sun shining, see the things floating, I know that probably breathing that in you know your lungs are the filters. Kind of the joke If you don't have good filtration in the home or a good purification, smells, odor controls. And it wasn't until after the pandemic that people really got kind of awakened to the pathogens, the viruses, the bacteria, the nosocomial diseases that can be passed to and fro. Especially if you've got little ones feels like the little one gets sick and then you all get sick. So that's been more on the radar.
Robia Turner:But honestly, michael, I still think it comes down to it depends on where you're at and what resonates with you. But for me personally I still feel like the VOCs, the particulate matters, the pet dander. I really really feel like if we could just one thing, if we could just help people remove that particulate matter, how much of a drastic improvement that would be beyond some of the other stuff that our company helps with or other companies help with out there, the indoor air quality issues. But I would say in 18 years. That's the one that I feel like has the quickest, biggest impact for all our end users.
Michael Church:Well, and you bring up a fantastic point, because all of those germs, viruses, still have to ride on, something you know. Granted, they can be independent, but most of the time they settle out fairly quickly, but you've got some particles out there that don't settle out for hours you probably know better than me. I would say some for days, depending on what it is, especially if you open the door and the draft comes through. Tell us a little bit about that, because I read into that too. In my business, being a base of waterproof and crawl space encapsulation, stuff like that, people are normally focused on what they can see right. So for us it's standing water. So if you have a basement, you know water floods in and messes up your furniture. You know all that. But nobody thinks about humidity which you can't see, you know. So I want you to touch on that particle that you can't see. Tell us a little bit about why that's so dangerous and what air purification has been proven to do over the years.
Robia Turner:Yeah, you know one of the and again, I'm a novice when it comes to the level of experts like, say, for you are in your field, different, some of our creators, of our technology, whatnot. But the thing that I've learned over the years is that, you know, we like when SARS-CoV-2 and COVID comes out and everybody is like on the panic level because of the exposure, the media. You know that was actually easier for us to handle, even though when you're talking about the size of particulates, to us it felt like the more dangerous thing would be like the mold spores that you can't see. Everybody thinks of mold as a visual on a wall or in a mold, or I'm sure you see it all the time in your deal. But it's the things that you can't see You're breathing in, like the mold spores, like the volatile organic compounds, the off-gassings. It is one of those things. It's like you don't think about it because you can't see it, so it must not be doing anything to you.
Robia Turner:But yet you maybe have allergies, asthma, things that are triggering, but you're like my home's clean, Everything looks nice, and it's just some of those things that the human eye learned that from you, man, the human eye can only see so much, right?
Robia Turner:If you looked under your air, indoor airspace, under a microscope parts per billion you start getting into these things that you can't see that we're breathing in and out unless you have the right type of indoor air quality and whatnot. And that really started back in the seventies and eighties as we started sealing up our homes way more right, Because we wanted efficiency with the heating and the cooling and that's been great. But now there's no natural airflow, like you said, opening the doors, opening the windows, so you're trapping all these things that you can't see, but you are breathing and it is having a major impact on your day to day living, your health, and it's just one of those things that like coming on platforms like this to help educate and I just love coming from the standpoint of oh, isn't that interesting, Like just having the thought process in the conversation.
Michael Church:Yeah, and YouTube's given us the ability to broaden our reach if you will. Yeah, and YouTube's given us the ability to broaden our reach if you will. But when we first got started in air quality, we'd do lunch and learns and breakfast and learns, or we were going around educating architects and real estate folks and HVAC contractors and of course, some of them are like, oh, I already know all this stuff. But a lot of them were able to listen to us and were willing, I should say, to listen to us. A lot of them were able to listen to us and were willing, I should say, to listen to us, and you know that's part of what this platform does is it gives us that opportunity, you know, to talk about particles and I'd like for you, if you don't mind, you know, tell us a little bit about, because I think everybody's still on the filter bandwagon, which is an important thing.
Michael Church:You need filtration in your home, but people, you know, it seems like it's either that or ozone, right? I mean, those are like the two ways that everybody knows in America about how to address and one is good and the other one is bad. Right, and you know, ozone has its place, obviously, and all that, but what is it exactly that your technology does to particles that neither filtration nor ozone can do? Could you share that with us?
Robia Turner:Yeah, absolutely, and you're right. The way that we teach our organization, our sales organization, across this, hey, we love to cooperate and work. Collaborate with any type of other filtering type products, anything. If you've upgraded your central heat return filters, great. I just love seeing people that are starting to see their awareness grow and are taking proactive measurements to improve their home. Right, it's our sanctuary, it's our oasis.
Robia Turner:What makes our technology so unique, michael, is that you know, let's go off the dust thing, right, because dust can relate with everyone, right? Well, so many times our technology would be tested and they would take us through the back of our machine and it would just blow most of it out the front. They'd be like this is a horrible filter and it's like, well, we're not a filter, our technology. What makes it so unique and why we've had such success helping people in their homes is it is a smaller six by nine, eight by 12 type purifier, but it sends out negative and positive ionizations. It uses like a brush ionization and it floods the home All healthy, by the way, just like. Think about how lightning strikes during a thunderstorm. Right, I always say this. You and I live in East Tennessee and I do this locally so, but no matter where you're at in the United States, watching this or around the world, everybody has that beautiful scenic place in their world and maybe it's back and forth through their work trip and in the Smoky Mountains. When we go through sometimes those mountains look a little hazy, but then there's some days you come through and it looks crystal clear and it typically follows after a thunderstorm, follows after a thunderstorm. So as much as our developers would like to take credit, we're just kind of mimicking what happens during a thunderstorm.
Robia Turner:Right, positive, negative ionizations, removing particulate matter.
Robia Turner:We do that in a person's home or business where, instead of a particulate having to come to our purifier right, like a filter would have to say per se we go out and give 50 square feet up to 3,500 square feet for one unit, we can do no matter whatever levels, and we remove all that particulate.
Robia Turner:So in my home, if the dust was over there in the back corner it would settle it out of the breathing space. So Cincinnati University did a study for us, michael, that shows that with our technology in a home, in a room, depending on the structure of it, right, there are some limitations that we're going to speed up that natural process of gravity by 200% or so quicker out of the breathing space, and so I'll follow up on some other things, but that's the number one thing is that it's an active technology. It's not passive. We don't need the particulates, the bacteria, viruses, to come to ours. We're actually sending a solution out, safe, healthy, into the home, the business environment, removing particulate matters and doing some amazing things in the air and on surfaces for the homeowner or the end user.
Michael Church:Yeah, so if I can kind of summarize what you're saying, your technology throws out these positive and negative ions. It takes a particle. It doesn't care how small or how large the particle is, and you know, we all remember the north and south magnets whenever we were growing up in school. It basically causes those particles to clump together and this, from what I understand, does two things. Number one, like you said, it drops it out of the breathing zone, so it makes it heavy enough so that it cannot stay airborne for as long, would you say 200 percent faster in some cases, right?
Michael Church:The other thing it does is it makes the particle large enough to be captured by a filter, and that's very important because most people don't understand that filtration is limited on how large the particle is. For example, epa, which is high-efficiency particulate air filter, can only capture 99.97%, all right. Germs, viruses, things like that cannot be captured, from what I understand, by those types of filters. So this particle, it'll take a germ, it'll take a virus, it'll take a dust mite, it'll take a mold spore, and it kind of throws them together. Is that correct?
Robia Turner:It is correct, and the power of the added layer, because that's only one third of what our products do the added layers. Activepure is our proprietary technology that's got so effective. We just had a study, michael, that just came out. It was a Louisiana and a Kentucky-based hospital put our technology in there and for those 24 months had a reduction of over 70% of all hospital acquired infections, and the American Medical Journal posted that. I could share that link maybe in the comments of this deal so people can see it.
Robia Turner:But what's amazing about that is so not only is removing the particulate matter, but it is actually neutralizing and neutralizing or deactivating those viruses or bacteria, even while they're in the air. So it's exactly what you're saying we're capturing it, we're making what technologies you may currently have in the home or business more effective, but we're allowing you to collect it. But even before it hits the ground, we're deactivating and neutralizing a majority of those pathogens, bacteria, viruses and then also removing all the particulate, which is why we have so many positive testimonies about. You know, when you think of allergies or asthma or different you know all the different things something triggers right, and the more triggers we can remove, the better and healthier a space can be for a homeowner or business owner.
Michael Church:Wherever our products are at Well, and I would think a side benefit of everything you just described is also you're making the environment smell better. Because if you get you know, let's face it the only reason why a skunk stinks when you're driving down the road is because particles of the skunk made it into your car, right? I mean, that's really what happens. It's either their spray or their body parts. Something's coming into your car, right. So if you can drop all those particles out of this part of your breathing zone, it should help to control odors as well. Right Now there are some technologies out there that destroy odors, like ozone and things like that that actively, you know, destroy those. But getting those odorous materials out of that breathing zone certainly does have a benefit.
Robia Turner:Well, michael, you bring up a cherished memory because before I got introduced to this company and started working with this particular type product or learning about indoor quality, I was an adult. But my father fell on some tough times, had him move in and he was a smoker and so not knowingly, you know, and again, if you're out there, this may resonate with you if you're watching this I was concerned about the smell. I wanted a good smell. What does a clean home smell like? So I had Febrezes and Glade plugins and candles and all these things that I didn't realize how much more they were putting out more particulates.
Robia Turner:Like you said, the skunk smell is not there and it's just. There's nothing there. It's something in the air, a particulate in the air, and we're breathing that, and so a lot of homeowners. We try to show that our technologies or a lot of good indoor air quality solutions are going to get rid of good or bad smells. Right, because we want to get that out of the breathing space. The smell is something that you're breathing in to the body, which is, it's a very good visual.
Michael Church:You just did with the skunk, michael Well thank you, and you know that brings up a good point. We're not going to name any names, but you know some of these cover-ups could be worse than what you're covering up. You know some of them use phenol, for example, which is a neurotoxin right? And you know I'm not going to mention any names. I don't want to.
Michael Church:You know, go down that road, but look it up, look up what phenol has done over the years and how bad it is, and some parents are just like, oh well, let's just spray this and kill germs and take care of odors. You know there's a lot of bad stuff out there that are nothing more than just more toxic than what you're using it for. And I think your technology is great. I've been using it for many years. You know it's in our offices at Crawl Space Ninja. It's in our homes. You know, even when we travel Rabia, we take it with us Because, I tell you, going down to the Gulf and staying in one of those Airbnbs or something like that that's been shut up for a couple of weeks, you get that musty smell and it takes care of it pretty quick. Speaking of that, how quickly would someone, would a homeowner, notice when they install your technology in their home? What are you hearing from your customers? Where they notice? You know how quickly this product is working for them.
Robia Turner:Yeah, depending on the amount of people that are living in the home. What is the primary concern? You know if it's, but on average, right, there's always the exception to the rule Within two to three business days 24, 72 hours business days. I'm in the shipping world, the mindset, right, you can expect your package in two to three. In two to three days, right, You'll start seeing notice. Some people see it much quicker because they're more sensitive, right? Also, being mindful of what you're looking for. But ultimately it's two to three days.
Robia Turner:And that's what's so amazing and that's been our biggest challenge as a company since I joined in 07 was to most people, when they think of filtration or indoor air quality solutions, it's like how is the whole home being covered? And we use the law of gases as an example, or the smell of popcorn, you know, if you burn something in the kitchen, like when you're going to the Airbnb, whatever those those smells, we're going to the natural air flows of a home, the central heat and air, the ceiling fans. It takes about, you know, two to three days to get our coverage all throughout the home. But you talk about the travel part. We have to travel a lot as well, Michael, for going to different hotels and whatnot, but the peace of mind that we have right, especially all the unfortunate information we've learned post-pandemic right About cleanliness.
Robia Turner:The biggest takeaway I had, Michael, with COVID was I was alarmed that we needed to teach people to wash their hands and cleanliness things. And then you think, hey, we're all human. But now I just look at every hotel, every Airbnb a little differently, even though everybody's really great about cleanliness. I like having that extra layer of just peace of mind. Wherever we go, we open up the doors, we plug in the purifier, we go have dinner and by the time we come back we know 12 hours, 24 hours. It's working, it's magic.
Michael Church:Very good, very good. Yeah, a lot of people don't realize, especially in a hotel. The dirtiest thing in the hotel, from what I understand, is actually the remote for the tv. Yeah, you know, and uh, you know everybody's worried about everything, but they don't have a problem grabbing that remote and and that air purification technology attacks those surface contaminants as well. Is that, is that correct?
Robia Turner:yes, yeah, anything with a breathable surface uh, any surfaces. You know you think about mine is you're right with the remotes, because we've actually had studies on showing where the most contaminated germs and stuff are. I always think about the curtains. The curtains never get changed. That's the one of the areas that I'm like, oh man, so you know you like I said that peace of mind, because we know it's going to penetrate all the surfaces in the air. On surfaces you get the effects of active cure, so to speak, very good.
Michael Church:Very good, melissa. I got two more things I want to cover with you real quick. Tell us about what VOCs are and you know, because obviously that's a little different than a particle. So give us a little bit about information about VOCs and then how your technology helps to address all the organic compounds.
Robia Turner:Yeah, and you know it's very interesting because I think of it as off-gassing, right? The definition refers to as a broad class of organic chemical compounds that are gaseous under normal conditions and easily vaporize an air atmosphere. Had to Google that because I'm from South Alabama and want to make sure I get that right, mike. Okay, but the thing is and I love South Alabama, by the way, I just stopped at high school on any education. But the thing that we want to talk about is is I always think about this. I just helped a client in Tyler, texas, who contacted me and their family just had a four week old that got I forget what it was called cystic fibrosis, right, and the thing that he was concerned about was is going to be that child's ability for the natural immune system to fight off and different things.
Robia Turner:And one of the marketing things that we've done in the past, michael, is we talk about, you know, think about the newborn. Everybody gets excited. They pick a room this is going to be the nursery, they paint it, they buy brand new ribs, a new carpet, normally give it a refresher and you've got all this off gassings, these glues, these chemicals and you're taking the baby with the brand new immune system and plugging it in. And you're in our mind, we're doing it as a sweet gesture. We just don't realize just how much is coming off that.
Robia Turner:And again that comes back to how you started. It's it's it's flooding it with ionization to be able to take all that off gas and breaking it down with our active. All that goes into play to just make sure that you're going to not have that, especially when we had, unfortunately, hurricane Helene down in here locally, but any kind of those hurricanes like along the coast. You have the FEMA trailers that come in, but again you have all the off gases, whatnot, and you're forced to go in there and we're able to put our purification in there and break all those VOCs down, take them out of the breathing space. And again, our goal always has been to give. We don't treat the person, we just try to give them the healthiest environment, to make sure that they're not absorbing all those chemicals. All those different things If we're talking about VOCs directly. Right, all those different things if we're talking about.
Michael Church:VOCs directly, right? Well, for those of you not familiar a lot of those FEMA trailers that he's talking about the way they construct them with glues and different types of things is that they off-gas a lot inside those FEMA trailers and your technology has been used over the years to help decontaminate them, if you will, even when they're brand new. I mean, that's one of the issues. And I want to throw something else out there about VOCs, because you know we might have someone who's getting ready to have a baby and then they go to Home Depot or Lowe's or whatever and they get that low VOC pain. Don't let that fool you, because low VOC pain is only low VOC to the ozone layer.
Michael Church:Okay, they don't call it low VOC because they're trying to help humans be exposed to low VOCs. They call it low VOCs because they're trying to keep the ozone layer from being exposed to low VOCs, which just shows you where you know, over the years, a priority has been from our government. Right, it's not about us, it's about other things, and so I'm not trying to get political. That's just a common thing that I found whenever I research. What is low VOC pain? Well, it's still off gases and it's still bad for humans, but go ahead. You were going to comment on that.
Robia Turner:Well, no, it's just you resonate and I hope that whoever's watching these videos. That's where the education piece is so important. Right To do the research, to try to do the best. There's still times when I think Heather and I have done really positive things and then we realize, oh my goodness, we didn't dig far enough.
Robia Turner:But a gentleman in our business networking group, michael, talked about they were just changing over the Freons and our central heat and pumps for the homes. And, like you just said, I would have thought, or anybody would think, the low OVFCs, hey, that's a better thing, right, and the Freon has nothing to do with deficiencies, anything, it's about the ozone layer. And then they said one of the side things to the new system is it's extremely flammable and it's like, oh my goodness. And so I just think your point is. So if we could just encourage anybody watching this do your research. No one's ever said, hey, I did too much research and then made a decision and felt bad about it. Right, it's always that that quick instant Just read the label, and it doesn't always come across that way. I thought that was such a good point, man.
Michael Church:Yeah, yeah. Well, the last thing I want to cover with you and this was something that came up more after COVID for me I want to cover with you and this was something that came up more after COVID for me, because I didn't realize it was humidity and its effect on air quality. And you know that's, you know, I've always. Yeah, humidity causes mold. We all kind of knew that. Standing water definitely causes mold, but your product still needs humidity in order to work properly. So tell us a little bit about that and how is that a factor when it comes to air purification?
Robia Turner:Yeah, and again this is kind of I'm going to have fringe information on this, but the way that the active purers priority technology works is, it's creating what they call hydroxyl radicals, and for that process to take place there has to be a certain level of moisture in the vicinity, in the home, and so sometimes if you're in a drier area like we face this a lot, obviously in Colorado, or sometimes up north, when the air is just a little cleaner or drier in the winter, we always recommend that people get a, not a dehumidifier but a humidifier, because our process is more effective with a certain level of moisture in the air.
Robia Turner:And, Michael, I know your technical background. You could probably even highlight that more, but that is something that we had to start sharing with people if we didn't see the results that we were expecting. So if you ever have any type of purifier that creates hydroxyl I know there's a few different models, some that are older technologies active pures has gone and always been kind of cutting edge. The moisture is going to play an effect on that, but again, it's that fine balance, because if you have too much moisture then you have a breeding ground for mold, mildew, and we're trying to avoid that too. So it is one of those key things. And I know you have the dehumidifiers across space and you kind of work on the excessive side of things, but there is such a thing that if the dry conditions are there, you may.
Michael Church:You can never go wrong with adding that humidity, especially if you have a product like ours. Yeah, ashrae which I always forget what that acronym stands for, but it's the heating and air guys, those engineers, you know. They've come out with quite a few documentations and there is no perfect humidity, but what we've gleaned from that research is that a really great humidity is between 45 and 55%. You know, for example, you know we live in the South. It's always humid here. I mean, even in the winter we might have a 30% humidity, you know, when it gets super cold but it only lasts a couple of days and then it pops back up. But you know, if you live in Minnesota or or, like you said, denver or someplace like that where you could be in the twenties for weeks, if not months, you have to add humidity to the air.
Michael Church:You know, and and I don't like whole home humidity or humidifiers as much as I like room ones but in some cases you may need a whole home humidifier. I've certainly pulled out a lot of whole home humidifiers here in Tennessee because we don't need them. You know, like you said, they become breeding grounds because, number one, the homeowner doesn't seem to know how to use it properly and, number two, they don't maintenance it, so now it becomes a mold source and those drier climates. A whole home system is good. But yeah, with your air purification technology, from what I understand, it takes O2 and H2O and does something weird, joins them together for a moment to where it's H2O2, and then they break back apart to O2 and H2O. Is that kind of a?
Robia Turner:simple way. Right and during that reaction is where we have that cleaning agency that allows us to neutralize things in the air on the surface. Michael has always had an ability to take something complicated and break it down to simple forms where everyone can understand, and I've always respected you and admired that. I'm more of a hey, here's the benefits, this is how we do it. And when they say, how did it get done, I'm like, well, let me point you to a video. But, michael, that's an amazing skill set. But, yes, that is exactly what takes place and that's what I love about sharing.
Robia Turner:Again, I want any end user just to make incremental steps of a better indoor air quality, healthy living. But with our products, it's not re-engineering anything, it's. We have the science that you can back it up, you can explain it, we can point to it, and I'm really proud that our company, especially the last five or six years, has really invested in a ton of research so that we can point to that and say, hey, here's, here's the scientific facts of how it happens. So that was an excellent. I'm going to take some notes there, michael, for my own presentations, my friend.
Michael Church:That's right. Well, I appreciate you doing this call with me, rubia, and I'm going to put a link down below. If anybody wants to get in touch with Rubia and this air purification technology that he has, make sure you mention that you watch this video and he'll steer you in the right direction. And they, they have just done a great job. They've got a great product. And they have just done a great job. They've got a great product. It's got a fantastic warranty. You know all this other stuff, and he's just lovely to work with.
Michael Church:So, rabia, I'm going to have you back, because I know we were going to talk about alkaline water at some point. That's another great topic, you know. Just for those of you that don't know what alkaline water is, it's just a way to give you better, cleaner and more healthy water, and we can do another video about that. Another time, ruby, I'll have you come back on the channel and let's talk about that. But what you've shared here about air purification technology is fantastic. So anything else you want to let anybody know about before I let you go.
Robia Turner:Very much look forward to the alkaline hydrogen water that's a big buzzword right now in the health industry and we've been doing that since 2012. So we'd love to have that conversation. And, michael, I just want to say how much we appreciate what Crawl Space, your business, your family, has done. We're very close to each other geographically and it's been admirable to see and I have clients that have used your services and don't know that we know each other and rave about what you've done. There's no better feeling than when you see peers, friends, family members like that get bragged about not knowing a connection, and so you've got an amazing company. It was an honor to be on your video today and if anybody ever contacts us, even if you're not interested in purchasing but have indoor air quality questions or purifier questions, like Michael said, we love helping people, we love shaking hands and meeting new people. So thanks, michael.
Michael Church:Oh yeah, Thank you. I appreciate that. That plug for us too. And anyway, I'm Michael Church, here with Ravia Turner and we hope you make it a happy and blessed day and we'll see you next time.